Rock and rolling man uh Darren thank you for being a part of this man oh man I appreciate you having me uh you guys had

me do something that I couldn’t even believe that was a part of I was a part of giving uh an award I was a you know

part of the presenters of an award at your event and if you want to talk about that event real quick man it was a

beautiful event but just diving into how it started and how it really has established it so uh the Detroit filmmaker Awards man it was um it was

really even what we wanted to do was we wanted to uh showcase a lot of Detroit Talent it’s by way of a film uh

documentaries music videos and things like that so um you know what I wanted to do was get the who’s who of Detroit

man the influencers the creative artists and stuff together all in one night to celebrate that man I’ve been doing film

here for man close to like 18 maybe a little bit more years man we just never

had that that uh that event that just kind of stamped us as you know some I

mean some of the greatest visual artists in the world to be honest man you know yeah dude there was some trailers that

you guys were showing that were beyond my belief like I remember this one guy had a uh I’m sorry I don’t know his name

but he had like a ghost story and the visuals to it were so intense oh yeah uh Jesse Jesse uh Jesse mcanally yeah yeah

I’m like this came out of here like this looks like a million dollar production yeah man it was a it’s a short too man

and it was it was a great short um and the thing and the things like a lot of stuff flies a lot under the radar you

know what I’m saying because we’re creators man and sometimes you know the marketing of us uh escapes us so you

know everybody don’t get a chance to see all the things that we do man and then sometimes we do stuff and we’re just on to the next [ __ ] you know what I’m

saying so like uh for us to have an event like that man it just everybody just really appreciates it we were

strong man and everybody was you know Maker’s Mark getting drunk having fun man just celebrating each other so it

was a wonderful event it was a beautiful event man thank you again for having me be a part of oh yeah for sure man you come you coming this year yeah man [ __ ]

yeah okay for sure yeah you guys had me feeling famous I’m sitting in the back with like trick

trick and [ __ ] I’m like what yeah yeah but it was really [ __ ] beautiful

um let’s rewind it though man because there’s you know remember when the film scene was supposed to come to Detroit like the tax you know yeah man yeah

that’s when everybody thought okay Hollywood’s coming to Detroit we’re gonna get this chance Transformers and [ __ ] yeah but uh you know that didn’t

really get to go down like that but you’re one of the people that are propagating and keeping it going and keeping uh uh a sense of Hollywood not

Hollywood a sense of the film industry inside of Detroit you’re one of the only people doing it for real at the level that it’s being done oh yeah I

appreciate it without professionalism um let’s rewind before I keep talking because I have a lot to say about it but

okay yeah I want this to be about you well no I’m glad you said man you know for uh to be honest man like I don’t

mind talking about film you know what I’m saying because film transcends me you know what I mean the stories of

people and everything about it man so you know like take it where you want to man I understand I’m here and I’m

probably a representative of what’s going on in the film industry but I don’t mind talking about it Beyond me you know oh no for sure I want to get I

want everybody to know your story first though too yeah so let’s start with you um were you you were born in Michigan

on Detroit Seven Mile okay [Laughter]

yeah I said my all day long I started actually doing uh I did a

movie man I did a movie called project 313 um had a lot of notable uh stars in it man and uh from there man I was doing a

lot of music videos for everybody in the city man we’ll talk about even the baby there like growing just growing up oh

[ __ ] man so yeah the baby Darren ain’t do nothing but pretty much uh I hung out on Seven Mile man did you have film in

your mind when you’re younger did you have the entertainment scene in the mind when you were coming up no man you know what I drew a lot I drew a lot I was an

artist man uh me you know what I’m saying good friend of mine from way back in the day Ramone Jordan we just used to

draw all the time man you know what I’m saying that was our thing so I knew at some particular point in time some type of creativity was gonna happen you know

what I’m saying so besides you know drawing writing I really got off into writing and I thought I was gonna go

down south to be like a journalist which you know what I’m saying I was out here had a baby you know how old are you

gonna have the baby that was uh I was uh when I conceived the baby or made the baby I was 19. okay so everybody

relative yeah yeah when I thought I was about to get out of here but then you know I had a baby and it was like oh no

you ain’t going nowhere for a second man so you might as well just make it happen here so you know I went to uh Henry Ford

High School um you know Newton Elementary Winship um and you know all those years man just

doing doing what the kids do bro you know running the streets having fun it’s a whole lot safer back in the day you

know what I mean so what was the moment that you knew cameras are going to get involved

shooting stuff is going to get involved for you so when I so story is man

um a boy he came up to me he like man I’m writing a movie you know what I’m saying God that I knew and I was like

you writing a movie and I was wanting to write man but never really thought about writing a movie so when he told me I was

like well if this stupid [ __ ] write a movie I know I can’t so that kind of started I mean to be honest that

kind of started me because I was like yo you know he just burnt something in me that was like yo I got stories to tell

you know what I’m saying from when I was younger to [ __ ] I don’t even know about yet so I wrote my first movie and you

know at the time it’s like yo how do I get people to actually make my movie and

didn’t know how to you know send my scripts off man I’m 19 19 year old boy writing about love and you know what I’m

saying streets and stuff and they’re like man get out of here and then plus it wasn’t what Hollywood was looking at so uh I just decided to go ahead and do

it on my own you know what I’m saying like or raise the money uh uh get

equipment and stuff like that and I had a partner you know I’m saying J White who was a part of that that movement as

well so we sold t-shirts man and uh got the funding to actually make the movie

so we had to hustle in order to hustle more now how before your first project while you’re developing your first

project how do the investors believe that you can convert for them there wasn’t no investors it was just us okay

so this was Zero budget time it was it was Zero budget man because back in the day it was like well nobody making no

money off movies I mean didn’t nobody even know how we was going once we finished with the movie we know what the [ __ ] was gonna do with the movie we just

knew we was gonna have a movie you know what I’m saying uh and the best bet and the best uh chance of us getting our uh

money back was to show it in theaters so we had to go and rent a theater which at the time people wasn’t in theaters they

didn’t even know they didn’t even have the equipment for us to bring the DVD to do it they had me going Buy DVD for us

connect it to the projector and you know what I’m saying and then we was like well we want to take it to another level

we want to take it out of town so we went to the pan-african film festival got it gotta uh select it there and we

started running the film festival circle with a movie called project 313. um is that the first film that that’s

the first film uh will Bennett uh big herkles in it um then a whole bunch of a whole bunch of other people Dave craze

um and you know it’s it’s uh the one that Detroit’s classic films you know on

the independent level and when you make the film you know um I know there’s difficulty I always

tell people like the only reason I feel like it’s really hard to make a movie when it’s zero budget is you can’t pay people to show up sometimes right

because you can’t afford to pay people to show up so when you’re missing maybe the main lead or you’re missing a secondary actor there’s just so many

variables that make it very difficult to make an independent film how did you get through it with your first film I would

say now that that’s the case back in the day everybody wanted to be in it people were showing up hell yeah hell yeah too

many people showing up at that time you know what I’m saying people’s calling off work coming out the house like yo yo y’all making a movie I

want to be in it we’re like come on you can be in it too yeah so I mean I think to be honest it’s way more fun with no

money than it is with money but that’s back in the day not not people make it man literally people are making millions

of dollars you know what I’m saying what camera equipment were you guys using for the first film man the first move the first movie uh we started off with a

Canon uh a Canon gl1 I believe it was okay then we moved to Panasonic hvx 200 uh with a

P2 card that allows you to do slow motion so it wasn’t like terrible it wasn’t like you were shooting off like a JVC like nah at this particular Point

time it was Pro silver cameras yeah you know what I’m saying he was able he was able to kind of like but they were still there was still a lot of money like two

thousand dollars you know what I’m saying like I think they may have been more and [ __ ] we ain’t had that you know

what I’m saying we had enough but at the end of the day you know we didn’t have all the equipment that we wanted but we

had all the equipment enough to execute or new exactly just the essentials to make the movie like man we ain’t had the

sound guys and them like that with no departments what none of that from an experience role what role did you play you were the director director yeah and

uh you can cameraman you came off of zero experience though to some degree no no no I went to I went to school I went

to school for it a little bit um but what school did you go to I went to uh specs Howard but I also went to a

motion picture Institute of film oh yeah yeah for sure for sure so I went there man

and um but they taught they taught they taught you really like

I guess at MPI it was a lot of industrial you know what I’m saying you didn’t have really a lot of room to kind of be creative you just knew what it was

and then they were teaching film I had friends that went to Specs Howard and went out of state to Grant I think there’s a school in Grand Rapids too

that teaches film okay I’m not I’m not sure the name of it but I remember a lot of my friends going to film school because I wanted to go to film school

but then they would go spend 30 40 000 and then they’d come back and be like

that’s the thing though so yeah I went and it was just like yo they teach you the components you know [ __ ] this is how

you load film this is how you put on a tripod you go this that the other and it’s just like yo okay so um when do I

create my own style it’s like no time for that [ __ ] you know what I’m saying ain’t enough time for you to create no

style here you got to get out and just do it you know what I’m saying so at one particular point in time man I was just

like getting out here and just doing it like you know paying people like paying teachers that taught me hey man you know

you freelance don’t you yeah I freelance Well here here’s some money I need you to come and do a music video I would get budget for music videos use that money

to go on rent equipment so I would rent my equipment from a DPL Detroit Power

and Light I was the only guy who was going out there and getting all these big lights and stuff man you know everything everybody else was you know

Ford and GM for their commercials and stuff I was the only one coming with the little minivan don’t throw these keynote

flows in here man dude let’s do that and they was like hey man you always coming out here giving us money what’s up you know what I mean and I’m like I’m just

trying to get an industry I’m just trying to show y’all that I’m serious about my craft so when they see me coming out there every [ __ ] week with

four five hundred dollars to get them and the budget was maybe at the time being new a thousand dollars and don’t

spending half of it on just equipment just to learn it they were like yo so I became friends with a lot of people in

Industry just doing that that’s incredible because it’s like you really believed in enough in yourself to make

these Investments yeah and a lot of people wouldn’t don’t take that step to say I’m gonna really put money in this and come off as a professional not come

off as like you know totally not respecting the craft just like with music you know some people

will get in the studio and show no respect to the craft of what it really means to make a song or what it really

means to make a movie but you were like I’m gonna pay respect to what I’m doing I’m not gonna [ __ ] it definitely so you were really on that mindset

um talk about the experience of creating your first film and what are the hardest parts of learning how to make a film or

walking through and making a film so create my first film it was fun man it was really fun everybody was cooperative

everybody was there for the same thing and I was really get their face out I think now um what it is is uh being a director and

what I’ve learned past the years is just navigating through characters navigating through uh attitudes and stuff like that

you know what I’m saying because I mean it’s hard to tell a person with money uh how to act you know what I’m saying and

when I say act I’m not talking about like the profession of acting I’m just talking about how not to show your whole ass you know what I’m saying so it’s

like right now man I think a director has um it’s more than just having a I

mean knowing what the camera does it’s really about creating relationships creating safe spaces for actors and

actors to really just get off you know what I’m saying so you know being being the uh the first one there and the last

one to leave like showing leading by example right that’s what directors need to be doing you know what I’m saying and

just how much respect the director has that’s kind of what makes the projects a whole lot better as well so for me doing

my first one was just all fun man but then when I realized when the money became involved and US expectations on

it right like time deadlines and [ __ ] like that and it’s like if I’m giving you fifty thousand dollars to do

something you got to have my [ __ ] the way I want it to be you know what I’m saying not like what you wanted I want

you to get it done but at the end of the day it got to be like how I want this [ __ ] to be because I gave you the money

right and I mean I was with anything that was with a music videos that was

with anybody who gave you money you have to walk that fine line of knowing how not to lose yourself and still kind of

like get them involved without them feeling like you just on here trying to take over you know the vision and the

project you know what I mean so that’s one thing that uh I had to navigate for years it took me years to try to

navigate that arguing fighting trying to figure it out you know what I’m saying trying the professionalism of it not

taking everything so goddamn personal and just saying yo it can be your project but I’m a professional and I’m

gonna show you why you hired me kind of [ __ ] you know what I mean so yeah I understand that it’s like somebody is

paying you to put out their vision and you’re a Creator in your own you’re in you’re your own creative right so you

have your own ideas of how things should be done but you have to follow what they want right so it makes it difficult yeah two creative heads at the same table but

once paying you so you have to listen to what that person’s saying and just the loopholes man like how do I steal how do I make it how do I have a conversation

with them so they understand like this [ __ ] that I’m putting down as dope as [ __ ] but not to say that it’s doping in

yours but this is this is the camera and this is equipment and I know what this does so you got to respect that I know

what this can do and not just the limitations of it but how far you know what I’m saying how much further I can

take a passive limitations so you know creating creating that uh that uh

creating that whole relationship is very important I know um I Heard earlier um somebody was like I was like I’m

about to go kill her he was like yeah I think his topic was like your street friends your industry friends or your

entertainment I said I don’t know if you’re gonna ask me that but I mean I only say that to say like that’s how you

create your your friends in the industry man when y’all on the same page of that [ __ ] and you create and I’m creating and

everything we do just bounce off each other as opposed to just like uh uh just

run parallel toward one or just bump into crash into each other like we working in tandem well I think that’s where all the greatest Productions come

from even if it comes to you know I’m in a band and we always think about the greatest bands of all time like Led

Zeppelin Radiohead Red Hot Chili Peppers System of a Down it’s because everything just ended up working out with everybody

that it worked yeah like there’s a million people that tried to start a band or tried to make a movie or try to

start a production and the pieces just didn’t fit for it to end up working out yeah even though the people might have been capable yeah when you get the

matches made in heaven that’s when the Productions actually happen and bands got to be a [ __ ] bands you

talking about five people in some in one group right yeah that plays something different that got a cohesively uh like

just Mary you know so I can un you know a rapper is one thing but a whole band yeah exactly he’s just the same way yeah

definitely look at the reason Friday probably there was probably a lot of movies being made that were similar to the Friday guideline but the piece is

just all freaking came together you just had the right freaking cast you had the right director editor you had the right

people all around the situation and that’s why it became what it became everybody I believe you know and

sometimes you know thing things can’t get messy behind the scenes but as long as it’s not shown on on film you know

what I’m saying and sometimes people just know their job know what they supposed to do for sure like I know Steve Urkel and his I forget the names

of the actors but like a lot of people are mad at uh him for the way he was handling himself what’s his name again

uh no no you’re talking about uh

what’s no his real name oh you talking about Jaleel White yeah yeah

anyways no you’re right though yeah he basically like a lot of people on the set did not like him so there is

examples obviously of like you know he had to save that show yeah so even even if they getting mad at him it’s like but

he’s the one who making these people who probably had a hundred thousand dollars episode 300 000 episode you can’t be mad

at that listen my favorite movie of all time is a movie called American History X okay oh yeah for sure Edward Norton

yeah and it was directed by Tony K Tony K apparently wanted to make it more like a

poetic black and white movie where like there was narrative going on throughout the whole thing in a completely different projection Edward Norton was

like trust me let me take over how we’re gonna portray the film and put it out there Tony K got so upset with Edward

Norton that he tried to make his credit name Humpty Dumpty he didn’t he said if you’re gonna take control of how this outcome is then don’t put me don’t put

me director then because you’re taking control I don’t have anything to do with it yeah I ended up getting kicked out of the guild and ship for doing that but

the point is some people they know what the [ __ ] it needs to be they know what

the project needs to be and that’s the thing man I’ve been in situations where it’s like yo man just just just just

just throw it out your head man and just see what it is especially with digital film like back in the day I can

understand because it’s like yeah we can’t keep [ __ ] up these rows of film bro also [ __ ] that you think gonna make

sense you know but now it’s like yo just shoot it man and if it don’t we just take an extra half an hour to rearrange

it I’ve shot movies and and people be like come on man let’s let’s put it out

there and it’s like hold on man give us another couple of weeks so we can go back and look at it again so we can make

sure this is exactly what we want I mean for me it’s a little bit longer but I just want to going into the editing room

that’s a whole nother type of Storyteller you know what I’m saying when you see it so yeah no I get it I

get it man talk about um how you went from the first film to the next film what the expectations are

for the next film and how much easier it was to move forward now that you have the experience behind you sure so um for

me man it was a situation where iron sharpens iron so for me I was sharpening my iron with wrappers

uh rappers from back in the day man you know big hurts cap uh tone tones uh man

so many man uh you know members of D12 bizarre um and it was like yo

I was sharpening my arm by learning angles learning how to work cameras uh

and then also taking on clients and and uh building relationships with them on how to navigate with them being artists

and me being an artist and how to communicate with them man it taught me how to communicate and be transparent

with what’s going on instead of doing something and not picking up the phone when they calling [ __ ] and they’re on

deadlines and you know I’m pretty sure [ __ ] happens today but that’s just the way that things work out when you’re not

getting as much as you deserve and you got to just keep money coming in you know so for me I did music videos for a

very long time man I was one of the most sought after directors in Detroit for a very long time and also did a lot of uh

work out of town too so um um going into a movie though I mean it’s

a whole different monster you know what I’m saying because when we’re doing music videos man ain’t no continuity we just shooting [ __ ] that look good you

know what I’m saying but when we’re doing a movie you talk talking about four minutes to an hour and 45 minutes

of [ __ ] that has to cohesively work you know what I mean so for me going into that that movie thing was a whole nother

monster man it was like yo every year I did a movie I had to try to work on something whether it was my eye whether

it was my ear whether it was my mouth which is the communication or something so every project that I did I worked on

something new for myself yes in order to communicate and make the [ __ ] go right uh learn how to build relationships and

then uh the overall part was learning how to work with the money learning that the money ain’t yours the

money is the projects you know what I’m saying so I couldn’t go and ask people for money and then how am I gonna tell

people oh I got this money but I ran out of it like what the [ __ ] is you doing with the money you know what I’m saying and we trying to work comfortably and

we’re not getting paid what we expect because we believe in the vision so you gotta at least create that safe space

and treat your people right you know what I mean so that’s that’s kind of what uh that’s why people trust me to do

things like the Detroit filmmaker Awards and stuff like that don’t mind saying oh I know if I give him this money I’m

going to get this out of it you know what I’m saying as opposed to if I did the DFAS and everybody paid the ticket

price and they came and and [ __ ] happened as expected people would be like man what the [ __ ] are we doing what

you doing you know what I’m saying that’s that’s not cool so for me man I always just try to do things that really

empowers the community um you know and and films films of course is one of the things your

responsibility allows you to be able to deliver right at the end of the day and you took account you take accountability

and you’re a person that wants to make sure whatever is needed to be done is getting done

um and you’re taking you’re treating it with respect like I said like a lot of people I get the thing of running around

the DSLR people doing the DSLR films I get it I respect the grind I respect the hustle I’m not a fan of people who have

the budget like you know some old heads will come in with a bunch of money but then they’ll still try to do the run and

Gun stuff and still try to get off with like she shooting so like my whole gripe with the industry is okay I’ve been in

Detroit films and I’m not I’m probably not I already know you know uh uh uh my boy Dion you always talk about you yeah

yeah yeah probably not gonna do it again because simply because of this and you’re probably the only person I’d ever want to talk to about this but basically I didn’t I don’t like

I’m a I’m a fan of film I grew up I want to be a filmmaker like I do yeah I like

the creativity I just didn’t get to the point where I’m doing it yeah that’s my responsibility but I have to get to the point where I’m making movies like

you’re making movies yeah yeah my gripe with it is like I don’t like the system of

they know the system right you can basically shoot the movie with the lowest budget equipment or whatever and

then all you got to do is hire GMAT cash to be in the main role of the movie oh yeah yeah and then when the movie’s gonna come out gmag make sure you post

10 times on your Instagram yeah everybody pull to the theater yeah we’ll make a bunch of money and then we’ll disappear I hate that that’s like come

on don’t disrespect the game like that yeah man it’s um man that’s that’s funny you say that

me man I have to really take a unbiased uh eye to a lot of things because at the

same at the end of the day um just like I was telling somebody the other day like when you’re doing business man people aren’t doing

business for each other they’re doing business for their family and their family alone when I come to the table

I’m not thinking about you I’m thinking about how I’ma walk out of here with my family better fed yes you know what I

mean so I can’t get down on people who do that I mean sometimes sometimes the smart business moves you know what I’m

saying it’s just like you ever go to your prime example you ever go to like a Marshalls or somewhere you shop and then

When Christmas Comes should look like a Toys R Us yeah and it’s like this ain’t even what y’all do you know what I’m saying but the [ __ ] gets sold they make

they they make their money you know what I’m saying they return on investment and they’re happy about that I think sometimes people come into the game and

they say yo let me go ahead and get this quick lick real quick and I get what you’re saying you know you’re looking for a way to feed your family and stuff

like that yeah they do the quick movie flips but it could be but it can’t be annoying it can be annoying but it’s also gonna it’s also gonna impact the

films that would have been great like if you start let’s just say you did take GMAC I only use them because he’s my boy say his name like that but GMAC come

being this film and it’s a garbage ass film they pay him yeah he promotes it yeah everybody go sees it now GMAC

actually gets an opportunity to be in a great film he promotes it everybody’s like man that last film was trash I’m

not gonna come see you again bro and then you just [ __ ] up the whole bag for a person who actually no no so it’s okay I’m gonna say this man I don’t give

a you can say you can say that may be a thing and it may happen for some I don’t give a damn how many trash movies Jordan

makes Jordan fields they gonna go and see the next one look

at them like shallow man how much [ __ ] he made that’s just been like what the [ __ ] was that and people would be like

oh the new everybody shouting movie coming out you’d be like I’m gonna see it in hopes that he gonna get it right all you need is one to get right and

it’s like I’m gonna keep [ __ ] with him you know what I’m saying I respect that yeah I respect that yeah um talk

about um what was the second film called uh the second [ __ ] man you got me digging um the SEC the second film of mine was

the uh the users right the users um yeah and did you see a return on that as a

being like a project that you had to make a return on yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay and talk about how you converted talk about how you made the

made it happen so that was that was me coming back into the game to be honest man after years of uh holding still

holding down no music videos and [ __ ] holding down the regular job oh okay you know what I’m saying I had I had uh [ __ ]

I was optician for a lot of my earlier in my career man so you know what I’m saying like still you know making babies

and [ __ ] and uh and uh feeding a fam and stuff so I still had to do something because this was a this was at a point

where we weren’t seeing returns like that you don’t understand what our films um it was like you would take it to a

a distributor and a distributor would be like thanks you know what I’m saying like we weren’t

seeing checks because the [ __ ] would be ate up in a print advertising budget all the time oh well we already pressed up

your DVDs and we spent fifty thousand dollars on printing advertising then you call back and be like no you ain’t made

you ain’t made over that yet so we still own this movie and this is still ours and that’s just the way it was and it was like but but then it was like but my

stuff is in Blockbuster Walmart and stuff like that so I can use that as leverage to go and say hey I am making a

successful movie that people want to see so how do I hustle my way into another situation you know what I mean so for me

the second was the users man and uh um I was sitting on it and at this particular time um Dennis he was doing

films you know what I’m saying and he was kind of moving and shaking he was like yo D you need to send this here and I was like uh man okay I was hesitant

because I was like yo I’m still kind of making a little bit of money you know off Amazon at the time where they allow

people to just put their [ __ ] on and then they would see pennies you know what I’m saying I mean half a cent on an hour-long film because that that’s the

that’s the rate I think is between two and and and four cent no no no half a

penny of four Cent on uh streaming an hour long you know what I’m saying so every time somebody watch a movie for

hours you only get probably on a high-end four Cent you know what I mean so that was the [ __ ] but it was just

like yo better this and nothing at all so when he came man I went with a company and uh you know seeing decent

check or you know a little bit of money and I was like oh [ __ ] okay this is looking and he over there he like no you

need to do more this is this is what’s going on you know I’m saying I’m saying good money so at that particular point

in time I said okay cool you know went out uh did the users and you know I started making a little bit of money and

then my boy that’s when I was like okay I’m back at it again you know what I’m saying uh just getting my foot getting

my foot back in the door getting my feet wet again uh learning people learning the new up-and-coming actors and

actresses learning to do departments that was now part of the Detroit film industry because before we didn’t have Department

we didn’t have a camera Department we didn’t have makeup Department we didn’t have wardrobe none of that [ __ ] it was like Hey everybody sending t-shirts

we’re gonna put you on the Move in a movie you know what I’m saying send in whatever you can oh you want to help out what can you do I know a little bit of a

[ __ ] come on because at the end of the day I was behind the camera and I was directing so I really needed you to do

was make sure don’t nobody hit me in the head you know what I’m saying so that’s really what that was so the users was

kind of like the next one the next one so then after that uh went off into dimes right yeah so dimes is like on our

hits man um um you’re going to see that on 2B right now man yeah been doing great numbers

um and that was that was a point where it was like yo I’m gonna do this one last one on my own you know what I’m

saying I’m gonna go ahead and DP it and direct it and after this I’m just kind of done with that whole thing because

now I know how to do all these things simultaneously still communicate with my actors still communicate with my team

and kick out something that’s dope as [ __ ] you know what I’m saying and that’s what we achieved with dimes you know my boy Donald Bolton wrote that one and uh

you know once we put it out there everybody loved it man it was it was a good hit so yeah yeah no people still talk about diamonds I’ve had a few

guests that come on there and um I I do know that uh it’s the one of the movies like I always hear about buffed up yeah

that’s one of the movies I always hear so yeah buffed up man moula films in them man yeah and and even though I talk

about dentists like Mula films Mula films was really like everybody everybody plays a part in the film

industry it’s like maybe about you know seven seven original Originators that’s

been doing it for over like 12 years you know what I mean and uh Mula films is definitely the ones that brought in that

mainstream oh we can really like not just make money but we can make [ __ ]

a living doing this man and they put together uh the whole genre I think they

really dare I say man I think they really started just the whole the whole Detroit Street drama

whole thing you know what I’m saying like we were doing it you know what I’m saying and I mean I say mines wasn’t

necessarily about the drugs and stuff for project 313 it was just really a situation but um when it came to mulling

them and they did it and they they really brought how Spike Lee brought Brooklyn to film

that’s how they did Detroit I feel that way too because I feel like they’re the most uh talked about as far as when it

comes to the movie scene and when it comes to the production scene and the series and everything they do they’re like the most consistent definitely and

everybody’s always tuning into every project that they put out there definitely man but when I heard about dimes it was it reminded me of how much

I hear about buffed up like I hear I would hear Like Dimes out here buffed up like I would always hear like oh these are the two two of the Detroit films

that people always like reference to when it comes to who’s making films in the city right talk about it though like uh why do you think it delivered more

than anything else and how it came together from start to finish so with dimes man what was crazy was we wanted

to we wanted to make a a movie uh all girl cast you know what I mean but we

did want to take the genre too serious like you know how Set It Off was we didn’t want it to be set it off we and

uh you know they they were just so they were just so calculated and so precise but it’s like yo man like if it’s three

girls from Detroit just really trying to get down get down on [ __ ] like they wouldn’t know what the [ __ ] to do in the

first they just doing for money so when people really expected to see one of those films that uh was taking itself

real serious you know what I’m saying everybody don’t nobody want to die uh you know guns in people’s faces and they

like kill me [ __ ] and it’s like no that’s not how real life happens like we wanted to make a down-to-earth movie or it’s like these girls don’t know how

to do [ __ ] yeah you know what I’m saying they go in there robbing people they don’t know nothing so when people went in it was like this is not a serious

movie and we kind of really Market it as a serious one but when people went in it was pleasantly surprised that everybody

was laughing at and that’s really what we wanted people to do people we wanted to take put the humor in real life situation so that’s why everybody who

walked out man and the biggest thing for me is when people walk out you know you get some when people walk out of there

and they’re like oh man it was the greatest [ __ ] in this thing it’s like yo they get home and it was cool ours people come out and be like yo that was

a damn good movie for sure and that was it it was like that that was that movie was satisfying you know what I mean

who’s the actor that was in the bed that uh the girls come up to and he’s basically like he’s basically saying

like uh cadario you’re talking about because I’ve seen that scene and I was

like this is the funniest [ __ ] I’ve ever [ __ ] seen I’m like yeah who is that where’s his Instagram I just want to

follow him when he was like uh where he was like oh yeah this is my yeah no no no no no you

talking about oh the guy in the bed was cordario and that’s when he when they walked in and he was like [ __ ] shut up

boy and she hit him with the gun he was like that’s called Dario man Instagram yeah his name is uh

c-o-d-e-r-i-o and I think he spells his last name u-b-a-n-u-t-u something like that

if you even watch like a Hollywood film like it was the same amount of entertainment for me I was like this

appreciate that hilarious I appreciate that man and that’s a lot you don’t understand the timing on a comedy man

was something that was really important to us and it’s a fine line between comedy and films especially independent film and courtiness right and we just

wanted to make sure that it wasn’t that you know what I’m saying so I know man because I like I said I’ve been in films I’ve been at the theater where my scene

is playing and I and I would watch and I’d be like what the [ __ ] I’m sorry like I’m not trying to be a [ __ ] man but

when I’m when I was first being in Detroit films I’m like oh this is awesome like all right like that’s what’s I

didn’t get it I was like I don’t get it there was one scene I don’t know if you’ve seen on Strange Fruit there was one scene where people were laughing at

my part I was like yeah but I was in another movie where I was like you were just trying to cater and I hate that

like you think you you know the tricks into making this demographic laugh and

you’re trying to use them over and over and over again yeah yeah just kind of like how some um you know GMAT cash again I don’t know I’m just referencing

him because he [Music]

about how all Detroit films are and it’s like oh yeah you kicked down the door and there’s guns

they tagged me and asking so many times man it was hilarious though man I I really appreciate you know what I’m

saying everything man and sometimes you know what I’m saying I could be a little controversial on my on my Facebook page

uh you know not IG too much with Facebook because you get a lot more people talking and it’s like everything

needs to be said we need to know what the [ __ ] is going on bro you know what I’m saying so it’s funny you say that when they tag me it was it was hilarious

my sister tag my fam tagged me man so yeah Jimmy cash he was he was uh he was cold for that one yeah yeah but he made

a good point it’s like every trailer for everybody’s movies I’m talking about everybody’s was the same exact cookie

cutter thing is somebody breaking down the doors with guns raiding a building somebody making a deal somebody getting

arrested somebody like I’m gonna turn my life around G yeah yeah yeah yeah all right I get that but you can only sell

that so many [ __ ] times that’s right that’s right man but I get it though I get it it sells at the end of the day what sells at the end of the day [ __ ]

guns violence and that’s just what it is right now you know what I’m saying but that leads me to like my new film that

I’m doing you know what I’m saying and this is kind of like the new Journey for me um

no no no oh yeah I forgot our rose gold yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so what are we talking about now what are we talking

about uh we’re talking about why how you’re transitioning now too okay okay yeah so I did I did rose gold rose gold

was actually and sometimes I do films you know what I’m saying I do collaborations and uh and uh rose gold

was a collaboration with a urban urban Cineplex and uh you know the DP on it

was um Rodney uh Nate from Blue Clover and uh you know will in uh June from uh

Urban centerplex and we did that with crystals Urban Cineplex they’ve done um they’ve done quite a few different bad

girls it’s their most notable films okay uh bad girls one and two um so uh I was able to work with Crystal

the dial Kiva Leah man and I’ve never worked with that part of the industry so much you

know what I’m saying which is pretty much like the the it girls in the industry you know what I mean and they

were just so professional and so nice and so cool man and you know what I’m saying like sometimes because sometimes like you said we have the kind that’s

kind of the Instagram and then we have the actors and it’s like the rappers versus the uh the hip-hop artists

underground scene yeah you know yeah yeah exactly so with this for me stepping into it um I’ve worked with a

couple of them before but it was years ago and you know understanding with them being so so like so much more

um I guess training now it was fun working with a man and I thought oh okay so they have they not only have the

followers but they also have the talent to do this so it just opened my eyes up to being like more open to being like Oh

yeah man like this is this is pretty dope and I was able to work with uh you know busy the actor Mitch icewood uh

Denzel um uh and this little other uh new young actors that was pretty dope yeah because

I know um like we’re talking about popularity versus your talent obviously to some

degree like if you’re really an actor yeah you’re gonna notice that versus an instagramer who makes this comedy skits

but I did notice that a lot of managers are taking their artists and saying hey we’re getting films done over here let’s

get you paid for making money let’s go to school go to these film classes go to these courses go to these events yeah so

now they’re taking it seriously yeah man I mean and we have a lot we have a lot here man come on Smith he does one um

you know I do think I’ll speed cast which network because that’s really my wheelhouse is just getting everybody together networking even Dennis does a

um acting class I believe King Wesley is doing the acting class now um and dare I say Eddie Kane so it’s

quite everybody’s contributing man to what film are you going to talk about that is the transcender

melanin okay so I have a new film melanin which uh I don’t know when it’s airs or if we should date it but it

comes out January the 21st at the Bel Air um and you can get you know you get your tickets at uh on my website which is

darrenbrownmedia.com um but what this movie is about is basically about a white man who takes a

pharmaceutical child tanning pill in terms itself to a black man brilliant yeah so it’s kind of enjoy feel to it

kind of yeah you know what I don’t know if you’re ever from if you’re familiar with uh well we appreciate you’re familiar with Melvin Van Peebles Mario

Van Peebles father more films he made this movie called The Watermelon Man Okay The Watermelon Man is pretty much

uh the same premise it’s about a white man who fell asleep but he just woke up black right you know what I’m saying so

what I did was I just Dove deeper into the movie so it’s almost I wouldn’t necessarily

reimagination of you know what I’m saying of that and uh man it’s it’s way

deeper because what it does is ask the question of uh how does it do the judicial system handles a black man that

has a white squeaky clean pass how do we vilify him you know what I’m saying and how do we see him so um in this film it

answers a lot of those questions and uh you know like I didn’t want to beat anybody over the head with this project

I mean with this uh type of film I’ve seen uh I believe it was a American skin

and I liked American skin it was cool but sometimes we do we do put that heavy hand on the difference in uh you know uh

uh controversial illness when it comes to like race and stuff like yeah yeah yeah because I noticed Jordan Peele got

in a lot of like controversy with that where like when he came out with uh get out right it was the perfect balance of

like Hey we’re gonna talk we’re talking about race we’re talking about what’s going on in the world in the communities and stuff like that but we’re gonna

deliver it in a way that’s highly entertaining and stuff and and not and not and take a approach where we’re not

necessarily making the white man a villain or or too vicious you know what I’m

saying like but it is it is certain things that happen that we we see and it’s just the nuances of how they do

certain things that we can see with our third eye and maybe everybody else don’t notice you know what I mean yeah yeah

yeah as this film’s going on I think uh then he came out with uh us right us right so that was a little bit more it’s

like okay now I’m taking it to the next level telling you how I feel a [ __ ] than it was social well it was

social inequities I guess you know what I’m saying well it was still a lot of social inequities because basically it’s just

about the two like yeah yeah yeah it is when you ran deeper right when you go into deeper it is it’s like that’s just hitting pretty if you look into it for

real it’s like damn that’s [ __ ] stupid kid do it do everybody want to look into it that’s the thing get out

was more stop you in the face with it you know these white people just like taking our strengths and you know what

I’m saying and using them against us I guess and US was kind of like you got to dig a little bit deeper into it so you

know I I get it I got it but then he came out with like the newest one I think the nope is the the one where

people were like okay that’s now we’re it’s just getting a little bit too people were just like do it but

entertain too at the same time yeah and that’s my even though when I was talking about Dave Chappelle a couple weeks ago I I love when people are talking about

political things but at the end of the day entertainment if I want to come look at something if I want to come see a

movie I have to know what I’m getting myself into to some degree I found it walking watching a movie Mostly with one

abandoned 95 of us want to be entertained when we watch a movie if I want to come and listen to Somebody

preach about something that’s a matterful in society I want to go to that part well that that’s the thing or

going into something and packaging in a way where it’s not so damn uncomfortable yeah that

we’re coming out mad and angry or exhausted from looking at it and I didn’t want to make an exhausting movie

maybe like Spike Lee had the good balance of knowing how he had a great balance uh especially for the time like

it was but at that time it was needed I mean it’s needed even more now but at

that time I think without the internet and everything people are able to go home and process it now we just

processing [ __ ] immediately while we’re watching it we’re processing it and we don’t even process it before we even

before we spit it out on the internet we’re just we’re just talking [ __ ] on the internet and we haven’t even

processed it yet we’re just trying to we you know how somebody say um uh you’re you’re only listening just to

talk you’re not really you only hearing me to talk you’re not even listening you know what I’m saying or you’re waiting you’re just doing this you’re just

waiting on your turn to talk basically and that’s what a lot of people do they’re not reading any comments they’re just putting [ __ ] out there just get

their chance to talk you know what I’m saying and we speak out to turn a lot of doing that so with the film that I’m doing like it’s really it’s really the

first half of it is damn near comedy until [ __ ] get real until he realizes yo

I’m actually black regardless of what I think I am the skin tells everybody that

I’m black so this now it’s a roller coaster of things you know what I’m saying it happens to them uh talk about

the cast and everybody involved so yeah so uh lead lead is uh Rob um I forget Rob’s IG but uh Rob is from

where it’s right from I want to say Colorado Idaho something like that man and we found we found them uh through

our A.D uh Dion Dion Shepherd uh we have uh Shamari he’s one of the main uh roles

he plays the Black Mike and Rob plays the White Mike and you know the similarities and it was just like an

Instagram page I could follow further yeah definitely definitely well you can follow me Darren Brown films uh and you can go and I believe the uh the trailer

is already on there and everything for the movie uh or do I just come to your page for it you can just go to my page

for it right now yeah I’m gonna just make sure uh that people can see it on the link yeah definitely definitely put

it out there yeah I mean he was a trained actor when you guys found him yeah all of them okay all of them I love I love trained actors right yeah love it

because I mean at any given time I might just switch up the mood and I need the actor to be able to do so do you ever

come across uh dealing with the things that you have to deal with when you’re coming with a micro budget film like from earlier in your days where you had

to deal with people not showing up still is that like out of the picture now you’re there at this level for me it’s for me it’s it’s it hasn’t

been a thing it’s out of the picture with me but it still happens no don’t get me wrong it still happens for some

and do you adjust towards that not being a person not showing up definitely my team is amazing man this team is great

at that how do you deal with something significant as maybe an actor is just part of it and then he completely

disappears that you cut him out the film or like how does it work I don’t know

that [ __ ] wow like I mean I heard about it happening to a lot of people where it’s micro budget obviously like a lower

budget but if you haven’t that means the respect for you is so high it’s like I’m not going to miss mine but not only that I mean not only that uh me keeping a

safe space for them for them to continue on to keep coming too I mean that’s my responsibility you’re not even about to

save space some people are just irresponsible where it’s like oh [ __ ] that film like everybody man that’s wild as hell though you know what I’m saying

with contracts and money that I’m giving you and you just say [ __ ] the film so everybody gets it yeah so I’m thinking about it as like you get everything done

the way it’s supposed to be done pretty much yes yes yeah yeah you’re not in the gorilla style where it’s like you know

whatever’s happening is happening you’re on the full like paperwork type thing everybody get a schedule the day before

I mean they probably be up to three days they know constant communication I mean [ __ ] if we got to come and arrange a

driver to come pick you up every morning that’s what we own you know what I mean I mean you know it’s not a thing that

happens can you talk about the budget of how much it costs to make this film or do you not want to get into that no no no no no no no that’s fine this was uh

it’s my IMDb and everything so uh we made uh we made melanin for 60 000. okay

um and I’m all about being transparent about it you know what I’m saying because my 60 000 may be somebody’s else somebody else’s four hundred thousand

you know what I’m saying and only because just just the people that I have that willing to work and be a part of

certain things um and then plus I just ain’t making no 500 000 movie up right

now you know when you made dimes what was the return on that did you guys see like a significant budget return now

that one now that one you uh ain’t gonna say too much about that

you know what I mean so it’s I mean I do this full time yeah right on I mean that’s yeah that’s the that’s the man

like I I got you know a family a huge family uh I’m able to take care of my

family um you know uh man you know I’m able to go on trips and do all things necessary

for my for my career to progress so no no it’s a beautiful thing to hear that man how many people the only person I

know that’s living like that besides Moolah films is uh Dylan sides and Lance

quas yeah I don’t know if you’re familiar with them but they’re both of them oh yeah yeah yeah for sure for sure but did you you had I mean you got

Dennis Reed uh who’s who’s so you know and I brought you know right now then

this is probably your GMAC is you know then this is for me because I brought them up but I mean he has he has a wonderful like he has a office building

and he has a studio on it right and he has in the studio he has a prison the

airport uh uh bedrooms I mean I’m talking I’m talking about

like sets like you walk through a door and you’re in a whole nother set yeah you have to go see it where’s it at it’s

right it’s right on Greenfield it’s like it’s like it’s like a Tyler Perry studio bro is that like where haha

Davis is shooting his prison skits possibly because I don’t know okay yeah yeah yeah but he got like a whole prison in there he got the place where you’re

going you know the partition and wow like it’s crazy like you walk through there and you like open the bedroom door

and you’re like in an airport so it’s like a mini Hollywood it definitely is definitely that it ain’t like is exactly

what that is like you can go there you can rent out the space and everything man um uh uh Tanya Brown is the one who

runs it over there at uh dr2 Studios uh Homestead you know so like you can go over here and just like do whatever you

want to man what’s been the most proud moment for you so far and everything you’ve accomplished with your films

uh being able to tell my boss [ __ ] him [Laughter]

got into it with this uh girl and she was just like mad disrespectful right so

I’m like man so he came in and he like yeah so what you say to her like yo bro ain’t say [ __ ] to her so he was like

yeah man this I said man well you ain’t hired me because he called me and hired me said you ain’t hire me to get disrespected man so he was like oh so I

took a leave came back see if he had to change the tune see if it’s gonna be worth it he was like yeah man what sent

you back you got to work all day I was like [ __ ] I ain’t working all day I was like he was like yeah cause she been

working hard since you’ve been gone she been working every day I said well it’s just what she wanted to do yeah so he

was like well you know what man like you can’t afford you can’t afford to not keep this job man I looked and I said who the [ __ ] you

talking to bro he was like after that man it’s his chest caved in he threw his head down I was like who the [ __ ] you

talking to you don’t even know what’s going on man like this right here I’m just wait I was waiting on this moment

for me to be like [ __ ] y’all so once he said that I was like I’m done that’s fine I ain’t never go back man now like

three years ago no that’s fire as [ __ ] yeah as far as [ __ ] to know that you believed in yourself enough to leave the

security of a job right yeah yeah a lot of people don’t have the guts to do that I always tell my friends like if you really want to be in the

entertainment industry it’s very difficult to manage a real job nine to five and make it just like any other entrepreneurship it’s like very

difficult some people can do it it happens but yeah you got the leap if you really believe in it because you’ll make it happen I I’ve had friends who are

success stories with that where they literally have left their jobs and then just [ __ ] prospered I have less friends that didn’t that that quit their

that didn’t quit their jobs and succeeded then quit their jobs and succeeded I have more friends that quit and succeeded yeah yeah give me two

seconds let me just text you yeah so I mean and even even with that being said like um not having a job man and just

dealing with the bare minimum will kind of put you in survivor mode anyway yeah for sure and when you when your backs

against the wall that’s most likely when you’re gonna be able to you you have to pay attention to every little thing you do you wake up knowing the pressure’s on

you you can’t especially when you have a family definitely you can’t [ __ ] up man like [ __ ] man I gotta I gotta every day I got a to-do list yes of how to make me

money that day yes you know what I’m saying so whether it’s uh film premieres whether it’s film festivals whether it’s

movie whether it’s talking to investors every day I have to come in or try to

come in with more money than I left the house with I’m curious I I just even though this is like more of an ego

driven question curious on why I was part of that event because I I

don’t I didn’t know if I contributed enough to even be a part of your would you talk like well you’re part of the culture you got a voice

I remember let me tell you kiddo what’s so funny man I remember when you started man and it was on your ass

and I said man he is as bad as it seems for him right now he has a voice that’s

just gonna be so respected because not only did he take the brunt of the [ __ ] that people on the internet was

giving him he he took it you know he took it on the chin and he kept moving and it’s not like now look at you people

people like [ __ ] you know when you was doing the view I sent you a couple of music videos too and you gave me good

reviews but you know people was ah [ __ ] it out you [ __ ] think he is and it was just like yo but he’s the one who

got the balls to do it so with that you’re gonna be rewarded man and now it’s like yo man you you interviewing

them people really care about what what you say you showing up to events and people like yo [ __ ] you you got your

hands on the culture now like you know rap music better than [ __ ] who’s rapping you know what I’m saying

because you get to you get to talk to everybody you see people’s perspective and it’s and it’s in it’s just uh on a deeper

level of understanding than just getting in front of a mic and just saying [ __ ] I

appreciate that like [ __ ] crazy man I watched for a long time I said man I

can’t wait to see who get out of this [ __ ] but I already knew cause you were still posting I said okay man and then the goofy [ __ ] happened then the goofy

[ __ ] subsided then it was like okay I don’t know what you go through now but not sure now honestly like people are

showing me a lot of respect I have a lot of uh a leverage I didn’t realize I had as far

as um helping people like I didn’t know I didn’t know the amount of uh my how much my voice impacted certain things so now

I’m being very I didn’t understand the being careful thing at first like you can’t just say whatever you want to say you can’t just do it and you have the

impact to help people so use that impact don’t just take and not give yeah so I

learned all that but I really appreciate everything you just said I was curious when I was there I was like I’m sitting back here with people that like have

really accomplished great things so for me to be here was like an honor for you there was an honor for me so yeah man I don’t know if I thanked you at that oh

no yeah yeah you did man and I and I I just watched the whole I just watched the entire culture at some particular

Point people transcend and it’s like yo we got to protect him at all costs I appreciate and you’ve you’ve become that

person that people feel like yo we got to protect him like you can’t be out here acting crazy because [ __ ] if I mean

if he’s here and he’s mining opportunities for everybody because at the end of the day somebody gonna come

to you and say all right you know we respect you and we want your opinion on something who do we who can you throw us

because I get those opportunities all the time man and there’s so many opportunities that come my way I can’t even put my name on all of them because

it can cause conflict or whatever the case may be so I have to do certain things a certain way and and tell people

or let people know that I’m not a part of that because of the influence that I have sometime you know what I’m saying so when you become that you do have your

circle of individuals that just know how important you are and you know you’re probably not going to hear it until

you’re probably not gonna hear it until you’re in a particular space or until they’re doing a roast on you you know

what I’m saying right but but you but you’re there man no I appreciate that man um having you on here is is a big

deal for me because and it’s very motivating to have you here because I forgot my roots for a second of wanting to be a filmmaker wow

and people like you remind us that it’s [ __ ] possible and that there’s something going on in Detroit appreciate

it and you’re part of the reason that it’s happening because if people like you don’t go out and prove that you can

make movies you can make a living off of making movies you can have fun doing it and you can make it happen in a very

successful Manner and people respect you the way you do it then it’s motivating for people like me to be like do this as

possible yeah we can go do it because at the moment I forgot it was possible yeah man you see you I see Moolah I see Dylan

I see Lance I’m like this we can do this yeah man even right now I’m like damn we can do this Nick we can [ __ ] do this you know yeah yeah yeah you know what I

mean yeah so really thank you for like really taking this seriously no man I

appreciate you really have me on on here man it was a big deal this this has probably been one of the biggest deals

for me because I understand your um your influence and your demographic too man and it’s like I wanted to come and speak

to everybody about this man even if people you know what I’m saying like my my kids watch they go oh [ __ ] you’re

going okay ill and it’s like yeah you know what I’m saying that oh you know I’m like yeah man I know so you know to come on here and uh and by the way man

like I got 22 year old son so when I say kids it’s like the people who watching this and rapping and coming on and stuff

like that so um you know man that was it was a big deal for me I really appreciate this man

allowing me to sit here speak uh the way that I want to speak about filming everything man and now thank you man no

of course is there anything you want to cover is there anything else no man I think for the most part man just everybody check out Detroit filmmaker

Awards man uh it’s a lot of opportunities on my pages which is Darren Brown films Darren Brown media

Detroit filmmaker Awards and also we have the black Indie stream uh uh Film

Festival Awards going on in May so I’ve collaborated with Dennis Reed uh Lynn

Barnett who uh was a big part of vibe magazine uh Benzino who owned the Source magazine of course uh Dennis Reed we’ve

all come together to do a national Film Festival here which will be six days in May we’re not doing just the film

festival man but we’re doing art and a couple other things that’s coming along celebrity basketball game and we bring a

lot of people here to come and uh participate and celebrate filmmakers here yes and around the country with uh

independent film man so you know I I got you you know what I’m saying I know for sure yeah yeah yeah so that’s one of the

biggest things that we’re doing this year with that and also you know still me out here at Martha’s Vineyard

African-American Film Festival on rough shoulders hopefully bringing those type of big vendor films here

um you know big budget Studio films here as far as showing so we can be the first

or one of the test markets to actually you know be in the machine of hey man we

trust and we value the opinion of what Detroit has to say about certain things man so that’s on all levels man from

product to film you know what I mean so that’s what we’re working on now man just making this a hub for create

activity in film that’s beautiful bro it’s literally like it’s it’s needed for sure and there’s I always say this I’m

always like man there’s so many talented [ __ ] in the city it’s insane they just don’t have the outlet like

some of them want to be actors and then they think they have to go to L.A no not not no more man man yeah that [ __ ] I

mean we used to think we used to have to go to Atlanta but now it’s like yo we pulling people from Atlanta up here we pulling people from La here so that

ain’t even a thing man I went out to LA it filled it out for a second man and was like yo I would have never thought

well I already knew if I was gonna do it here you know I’m saying I wasn’t gonna leave my family so I just knew I was

gonna do it here and travel a little bit more but the fact that I can do it here create a voice that’s big that’s

National and uh do films that people all across the country not just Detroit respect man like it’s just been a huge

blessing for me look man I only have uh five people that are so far I consider honorary guest and I’m gonna I would

love to have you as an honor I guess to keep us uh you know throughout the year yeah keep us updated and yeah we’ll keep

us invested in the scene because we’re the film scene is going to come here and you’re going to be a huge part of why it’s here and very prominent uh to the

fullest degree like you said to getting into those big budgets the big markets and everything like that you’re going to be a part of propagating that and making

that happen so I need you back on here consistently and then um thank you again for being a part of this bro and tell

everybody the date for the film that’s coming out oh yeah uh melanin and that’ll be January the 21st

um at the Bel Air uh Luxury theater and you can actually get um it’s on Eventbrite is melanin movie

but you can also go to my uh website which is darrenbrownmedia.com for sure I

appreciate you being a party yes man [ __ ] awesome we’re gonna have you back again yeah so we can dive into deeper uh more details about everything

you’ve accomplished in the future projects coming out we’re filming a parallel Sound Studio high level visuals

and shooting this productions for us we’re out peace